Session Start: Wed Jun 11 18:27:10 2008
Session Ident: #mike-tech-show-tv
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[18:27] <@rjnsmith> 5Hey guys, Mike will be on shortly. 
01[18:27] <@miketechshow> Hi
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[18:27] <+ctiberg> Hi there Mike.. 
[18:27] <@Laforge129> Hi Mike
[18:27] <@Laforge129> :)
01[18:27] <@miketechshow> Hi
[18:27] <@Laforge129> How's your voice tonight?
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[18:28] <@Laforge129> Do we have video yet?
01[18:29] <@miketechshow> Just now
[18:29] <@Laforge129> there
[18:29] <@Laforge129> :
[18:29] <@Laforge129> Yes alot better
[18:30] <@Laforge129> Who your gas?
[18:30] <@Laforge129> :)
[18:30] <@Laforge129> ahh!!!  Techpodcast?
[18:30] <@Laforge129> Godaddy?
[18:30] <+ctiberg> http://is.gd/vqp
[18:31] <@Laforge129> :)
[18:31] <@Laforge129> I'll figure it out soon!!
[18:31] <@Laforge129> I heard about that last week
[18:31] <+ctiberg> Isn't there anything better?
[18:32] <+ctiberg> That sucks for sure...
[18:32] <@Laforge129> slow
[18:32] <@Laforge129> ;)
[18:32] <+ctiberg> They've been messing with the URL's too, so that Juice gets problems... PodBreeze doesn't :)
[18:33] <@Laforge129> Get a godaddy account
[18:33] <@Laforge129> :)
[18:33] <@Laforge129> Itunes is messed up too with your show!!
[18:33] <@Laforge129> comments
[18:33] <@Laforge129> No show notes!!
[18:33] <+ctiberg> I haven't used iTunes in a long time.. Like never :)
[18:34] <+ctiberg> Neither an iPod :) I like to stay free ....
[18:34] <@Laforge129> ahh, I had to resubscribe!!  It got fixed!!
[18:34] <+ctiberg> Juice doesn't work here in Sweden...
[18:34] <@Laforge129> I am getting shared hosting!!! Yes I love this!!
[18:34] <+ctiberg> It has major problems with Unicode characters. Unfixable
[18:35] <+ctiberg> Windows is causing problems for Python...
[18:35] <+ctiberg> The Juice problems were the only reason for me to build my own podcatcher...
[18:35] <@Laforge129> I can see you are packing!!
[18:35] <@Laforge129> :)
[18:35] <@Laforge129> No sheet
[18:35] <@Laforge129> :)
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[18:36] <+WinstonWolf> Howdy Mike
[18:36] <@Laforge129> Barb is coming
[18:36] <@Laforge129> :)
[18:36] <+WinstonWolf> I am duplexing right now.
[18:36] <@Laforge129> Just called her
[18:36] <@Laforge129> :)
[18:36] <+WinstonWolf> Leo on one Monitor and Mike on the other
[18:37] <@Laforge129> On skype/
[18:37] <@Laforge129> ?
[18:37] <+WinstonWolf> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WINGSSSSS
[18:37] <@Laforge129> I think it's a gpu problem
[18:37] <+WinstonWolf> They WON TI
[18:37] <+WinstonWolf> IT
[18:37] <@rjnsmith> 5:-)
[18:37] <+WinstonWolf> LOL
[18:37] <@Laforge129> Hi WW
[18:37] <+WinstonWolf> New house Mike? Nice man
[18:37] <@Laforge129> 11Not yet
[18:37] <+WinstonWolf> I just listened to last weeks Podcast
[18:37] <+ctiberg> Sweden beat Greece 2-0 - yay :)
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10Should
[18:38] <+WinstonWolf> today
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10I would love to hear about it!!
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10I've been talking to Paul about a round table get together!!
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10Philly Round table
[18:38] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:39] <+WinstonWolf> so he keeps claiming
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[18:39] <@Laforge129> 10Paul is definately on!!
[18:39] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:39] <+XScopeyX> WatsUp Dude
[18:39] <+WinstonWolf> I can fly in
[18:39] <+WinstonWolf> LOL
[18:39] <@Laforge129> 10Hey Scopey
[18:39] <+WinstonWolf> no just joking
[18:39] <+ctiberg> A little far from here :)
[18:39] <@Laforge129> 10Todd is coming to my area!! PodcampOhio
[18:39] <+XScopeyX> Howz You Mike And Everyone
[18:39] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:40] <@Laforge129> 10He said he was thinking about it!1
[18:40] <+XScopeyX> GdGd Dude
[18:40] <@Laforge129> 10GNC ROCKS
[18:40] <+XScopeyX> Hey Laforge129 Dude How you Doing..?
[18:40] <@Laforge129> 10Great
[18:40] <+WinstonWolf> BRB
[18:40] <+XScopeyX> Gd Dude?
[18:41] <@Laforge129> 10email him and talk to him!!
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[18:41] <@Laforge129> 10lol
[18:41] <+citizenX> Hello Hello
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[18:41] <+XScopeyX> Mike Emm am Here To See If you Do Sponsors
[18:41] <@Laforge129> 10yea she did
[18:41] <@citizenX> not even tracking number yet..
[18:41] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:41] <@citizenX> geeze...
[18:41] <@Laforge129> 10:P
[18:42] <@Laforge129> 10what's wrong now barb?
[18:42] <@citizenX> we ordered a dell xp .. overnight delivery 
[18:42] <@citizenX> ordered on Monday night .. well I am learning that NOW!! LOL
[18:42] <@Laforge129> 10It takes 2 days
[18:42] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:42] <@Laforge129> 10TO COMPLETE THE ORDER
[18:42] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:43] <@citizenX> yes we will get it the fastest possible
[18:43] <@Laforge129> 10LOL
[18:43] <@citizenX> once it is done
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[18:43] <@citizenX> oh .. but I have MORE who-is-me problems with another pc .. talk later?
[18:43] <@citizenX> i run out the house screaming
[18:43] <@citizenX> LOL
[18:44] <@citizenX> no .. as I said .. will do on site
[18:44] <@citizenX> when new arrives
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[18:44] <@Laforge129> 10Poor barb!!  Shakes head
[18:44] <@citizenX> when it rains it pours
[18:44] <@Laforge129> 10I told her to just grab the hard drive and move over the information that way!!
[18:44] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:44] <@citizenX> it's been raining on me
[18:45] <@citizenX> slave the HD 
[18:45] <@Laforge129> 10yep slave it!!  
[18:45] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:46] <@Laforge129> 10*BOWS&
[18:46] <@Laforge129> 10:)
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[18:46] <@Laforge129> 10Slave get the information off it, then format and use it!!
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[18:46] <@citizenX> wooo.. wayyyyy to crazy
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[18:47] <@citizenX> not the 2nd time
[18:47] <+XScopeyX> Ok then By Mike i Will get intouch and we willl talk
[18:47] <@Laforge129> 10we need to teleconforence the problem!!
[18:47] <@Laforge129> 10:P
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[18:47] <@citizenX> yeah 1st time it did THE we tried the widescreen
[18:47] <@citizenX> which I believe did some dispaly changes
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[18:48] <+Sacs> Hi miketechshow 
[18:48] <@citizenX> after I hooled up the widescreen and tried my monitor again it did not work.. MY monitor did not work
[18:48] <+tconnolly100> hello dave
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[18:48] <@citizenX> it's been hell
[18:48] <@Laforge129> 10I still say it's a Driver error!!
[18:48] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:48] <@citizenX> okay then explain the new video card install.. that did not work
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[18:48] <@Laforge129> 10Like the HD has a bad sector
[18:49] <@citizenX> it improved
[18:49] <+tconnolly100> ryan graduation going tomorrow?
[18:49] <@citizenX> but did not boot into a normal windows enviornment
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[18:49] <+tconnolly100> our second oldest grad tomorrow too
[18:49] <+WinstonWolf> Back!
[18:49] <+WinstonWolf> what did I miss?
[18:49] <@Laforge129> 10So when is the last day for this house for Miketehshow?
[18:50] <+WinstonWolf> Barb's Problem?
[18:50] <@citizenX> client issues WW.. 
[18:50] <+WinstonWolf> barb - ya need a Shrink?
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[18:50] <+Sacs|Colin> Could you give a summary of the issue mike, I got to my PC kinda late too
[18:50] <+WinstonWolf> ahhh that kind of problem
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[18:50] <+Sacs|Colin> Kill the client !!!
[18:50] <@citizenX> no power to the monitor
[18:50] <+pcnovice91> geesh even 10 year old kids are computer pros that i went too
[18:50] <@Laforge129> 10LOL @ Sacs
[18:51] <@citizenX> yes
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[18:51] <@citizenX> yes
[18:51] <+WinstonWolf> Weird...
[18:51] <@Laforge129> 10You going to start using FF some more mike?
[18:51] <@Laforge129> 10FriendFeed!!
[18:51] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:51] <@citizenX> nothing.. boots into safe mode only
[18:51] <+WinstonWolf> Tried Different Cables?
[18:51] <@citizenX> restarts in normal windows 
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[18:51] <@citizenX> yes tried diff cables
[18:51] <+WinstonWolf> Barb - Have you tried a Live Linux CD?
[18:52] <@Laforge129> 10I say the same thing
[18:52] <+WinstonWolf> to see if it comes up on the new Video & Mon?
[18:52] <@citizenX> ww & paul .. no
[18:52] <@citizenX> didnt see the point
[18:52] <@citizenX> so it boots into linus
[18:52] <@citizenX> so
[18:52] <@Laforge129> 10I recommended it to her!!
[18:52] <@Laforge129> 10I said that too!!
[18:52] <+ctiberg> We ordered a new video card that required 400W.. The second time :(
[18:52] <+WinstonWolf> Rulling out problems
[18:52] <+WinstonWolf> that is called Troubleshooting
[18:52] <@Laforge129> 10it's a driver issue
[18:52] <+WinstonWolf> Simple
[18:52] <+WinstonWolf> RDP
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> Boot it up
[18:53] <+ctiberg> Remote Desktop
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> RDP the system
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> Uninstall the old Driver
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> ahhh
[18:53] <+Sacs|Colin> I think windows can retain stuff in the registry, why not do a restore
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> You have to uninstall the New Video Card
[18:53] <@Laforge129> 10tried that!!
[18:53] <@citizenX> tried restore
[18:53] <@Laforge129> 10no luck
[18:53] <+Sacs|Colin> oh :(
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> RDP the system so you can uninstall the old Video Driver
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[18:53] <@Laforge129> 10sys restore
[18:53] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:53] <+pcgeek11> hi
[18:53] <@citizenX> a known good date
[18:53] <+pcgeek11> whats up
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> then install the new card
[18:53] <+WinstonWolf> then install the new driver
[18:53] <+pcgeek11> hi mike
[18:53] <+pcgeek11> how's it going
[18:54] <+WinstonWolf> Uninstall the New Video Card
[18:54] <+ctiberg> Sounds like the only thing to do is redo windows...
[18:54] <+WinstonWolf> that way you can get into it Via RDP
[18:54] <+WinstonWolf> weird
[18:54] <@citizenX> ww.. removed the video card and tried it again .. nothing
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[18:54] <+WinstonWolf> Works for me!
[18:54] <+WinstonWolf> lets buy a new system
[18:54] <@citizenX> (wealthy client)
[18:55] <+jvonruden> Hello, sounds like you need to reinstall the os
[18:55] <@citizenX> yeah but I want to UNDERSTAND this
[18:55] <@citizenX> so you have to reinstall the OS when a monitor goes out? 
[18:55] <+WinstonWolf>  Barb - definetly try the Linux Live CD
[18:55] <@Laforge129> 10Not all the time
[18:55] <@citizenX> crazy .. but yeah it has come to that
[18:55] <@Laforge129> 10Multiple Failures
[18:55] <+Sacs|Colin> I think it'll be the driver that has corrupted windows barb
[18:56] <@citizenX> cannot install new driver in safe mode
[18:56] <+tconnolly100> mike, sound like you feel better?
[18:56] <+tconnolly100> not at all
[18:56] <@Laforge129> 10Kind of!!
[18:56] <+tconnolly100> lol
[18:56] <+Sacs|Colin> older gfx cards can get a little huffy with spanky new widescreen monitors
[18:56] <@Laforge129> 10No offense
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10I thought My mp3 player was going bad
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10http://www.tech-linkblog.com
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10Several companies!!
[18:57] <+ctiberg> Laforge129: If it was an iPod, it was meant to be bad :)
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10|No ipod just generic
[18:57] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[18:58] <@Laforge129> 10This was fun so far!!
[18:58] <+ctiberg> On the other hand, my Zen Stone Plus is dog slow :(
[18:58] <@citizenX> APul did you message me about Mike being on tonight?
[18:58] <+WinstonWolf> Has anyone tried the TekZilla Bomb Proof USB Drive?
[18:58] <@Laforge129> 10Yes I'd like that one!!
[18:58] <@Laforge129> 10Yep
[18:58] <+WinstonWolf> Making one now
[18:59] <@Laforge129> 10Yep
[18:59] <+WinstonWolf> Yup
[18:59] <@citizenX> it did not say who it was from and did not give a number .. was just wondering .. TY for the text
[18:59] <+ctiberg> Yeah, sounds good...
[18:59] <+ctiberg> Except the skipping, but I bet that's not you...
[18:59] <@citizenX> sounds great
[18:59] <@Laforge129> 10NP
[18:59] <@Laforge129> 10thougt you'd want to know!!
[18:59] <@citizenX> YAY! A vent show!
[19:00] <+Sacs|Colin> open a can of woopass mike !
[19:00] <+WinstonWolf> SLAM THEM
[19:00] <@citizenX> whoop-<censored>
[19:00] <@Laforge129> 10Can't do that Sacs family friendly
[19:00] <+Sacs|Colin> :(
[19:00] <@Laforge129> 10we could do it!!
[19:00] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:00] <+WinstonWolf> Barb getting Censored!
06[19:00] * +ctiberg just opened a bag of cashews :)
[19:00] <@citizenX> Barbra says :bring it:
[19:00] <+Sacs|Colin> lol ctiberg 
[19:01] <+WinstonWolf> Must be LybSyn
[19:01] <+Sacs|Colin> any hints?
[19:01] <+WinstonWolf> LibSyn
[19:01] <+WinstonWolf> LOL
[19:01] <+WinstonWolf> So LibSyn listens to the podcast live?
[19:01] <@citizenX> did ANYONE host the MTS CA files we are missing?
[19:02] <@citizenX> I have them too
[19:02] <+ctiberg> Wasn't me :(
[19:02] <@citizenX> just want to know who can host
[19:02] <@citizenX> okay
[19:02] <@citizenX> adrive
[19:02] <+ctiberg> I delete every file manually on my player once I've listened to it. That's a major plus of the Zen Stone Plus...
[19:02] <@citizenX> will do
[19:03] <@Laforge129> 10You use the zen also!!
[19:03] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:03] <+Sacs|Colin> Surely all files were backed up.... hmmm...hmmm.... hmm.... !!!
[19:03] <+ctiberg> Laforge129: Yeah. Pity that it's so slow when copying to it :(
[19:03] <+Sacs|Colin> ahhh
[19:03] <@citizenX> 2 weeks only
[19:04] <@Laforge129> 10Yep but at least it can be played while I charge it!!
[19:04] <+WinstonWolf> is CA tonight?
[19:04] <+WinstonWolf> or is that Friday?
[19:04] <@Laforge129> 10no on vaction!!
[19:04] <@citizenX> no CA tonight
[19:04] <@Laforge129> 10vacation
[19:04] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:04] <+WinstonWolf> ah
[19:04] <+WinstonWolf> Slacker
[19:04] <+ctiberg> Laforge129: I didn't follow that. Do you mean that you can listen via the headphone jack on the player while charging? I can't get that to work...
[19:04] <+WinstonWolf> Mike - Did you start Audacity?
[19:04] <@citizenX> @WW talking about those missing wiki CA appearances
[19:05] <@citizenX> want to link the audio to the missing shows
[19:05] <+WinstonWolf> if you send me the MP3 I can put it on my host
[19:05] <+WinstonWolf> or you can upload it directly to the WiKi
[19:05] <@Laforge129> 10Yea I can do that!!  It works really well!!
[19:06] <@Laforge129> 10Stand tall Mike
[19:06] <@citizenX> will use adrive.com and send to mike
[19:06] <@citizenX> ty WW
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[19:07] <+oaidaraul> hy
[19:07] <+oaidaraul> dude
[19:07] <+oaidaraul> u have a glitch
[19:07] <@Laforge129> 10Mind of Root
[19:07] <+oaidaraul> on your channel page
[19:08] <+WinstonWolf> Mind of Root - that is funny
[19:08] <+oaidaraul> a bug
[19:08] <+ctiberg> Whoa.. I got my response from Todd about the Godaddy contest :)
[19:08] <@citizenX> raul? what are you saying?
[19:08] <+oaidaraul> on the embed thing below the window
[19:08] <+WinstonWolf> Man - FF3 Beta really KILLS the CPU usage when watching Video
[19:08] <@citizenX> what site?
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[19:08] <@Laforge129> 10Oh so your Christiana Right?
[19:08] <+oaidaraul> the email word and the here word  are united and imposible to read
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[19:09] <+WinstonWolf> I have tried it on UStream and on Stickam
[19:09] <+ctiberg> Laforge129: Yeah, that's right...
[19:09] <@Laforge129> 10I'm the other one!!
[19:09] <+oaidaraul> on the ustream page
[19:09] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:09] <+Ian> Mikey, how you been bud
[19:09] <+ctiberg> But "Christian", nothing else
[19:09] <@Laforge129> 10Opps my bad
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[19:09] <+pcgeek11> hi whats up
[19:09] <+Ian> Hi all, how you all  doing?
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[19:09] <+pcgeek11> cna you show your screen?
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[19:10] <+ctiberg> I've been called "Christina" when I was to visit the doctor, that was funny - not :)
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[19:12] <+Sacs|Colin> man he is miffed :)
[19:12] <+Sacs|Colin> Sorry mike :)
[19:12] <@citizenX> dont apologize.. make sure it never happens again ...
[19:12] <+ctiberg> I don't blame him :)
[19:12] <@citizenX> oh no he didn't!
[19:12] <@citizenX> aww he DID
[19:13] <@citizenX> he gave em the : HEX :
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[19:13] <@citizenX> wooo that was great.. the emotion comes through in audio
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[19:14] <@citizenX> the hand .. LOL
[19:14] <+ctiberg> Yep, that was fun :)
[19:15] <+WinstonWolf> easy Mike
[19:15] <+ctiberg> You might need something stronger after that :)
[19:15] <+WinstonWolf> deep breath
[19:15] <+WinstonWolf> Woooooossaaaaaa
[19:15] <+Sacs|Colin> lol WinstonWolf 
[19:15] <+WinstonWolf> Hi Ryan! Congrats on Grad!
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[19:15] <@rjnsmith> 5thanks
[19:16] <+Sacs|Colin> Whats the alternatives to libsyn
[19:16] <@citizenX> yeah congrats ... 
[19:16] <+ctiberg> Evernote is truly great...
[19:16] <@Laforge129> 10GoDaddy!!
[19:16] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:16] <@citizenX> you should <censored> some suggestions
[19:16] <@citizenX> *add
[19:16] <@Laforge129> 10Dedicated servers
[19:16] <@Laforge129> 10;)
[19:16] <@citizenX> you should add some suggestions to show notes
[19:16] <+Sacs|Colin> also, I take it you wont want to hear that Leo dropped them a bit of a plug on twit live tonight :(
[19:16] <@Laforge129> 10Maybe ask for donations!!
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01[19:17] <@miketechshow> http://dan-orth.com/2008/06/thunderbird-in-the-cloud-with-secure-email-the-killer-setup/
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[19:20] <+WinstonWolf> I have used AirSet before
[19:20] <+WinstonWolf> Not bad
[19:20] <+WinstonWolf> I don't use it anymore since I have a Windows Mobile Cell so it hooks directly to my Exchange Server
[19:21] <+ctiberg> Are the rest of you getting lots of skipping?
[19:21] <@Laforge129> 10Not at all
[19:21] <+Sacs|Colin> http://www.ghacks.net/2008/05/31/sync-gmail-contacts-with-thunderbird/
[19:21] <+ctiberg> During the voicemail it skipped 4-5 times for me
[19:21] <+ctiberg> And another one right now
[19:21] <+WinstonWolf> NO - as long as you have a router between the Modem and the network
[19:22] <+ctiberg> 2464 kbps is all we can get out here.. Maybe that's why...
[19:24] <+WinstonWolf> all they can do is monitor Bandwidht
[19:24] <@Laforge129> 10hahaha, He had an unsecured wireless signal and everyone was getting on it!!
[19:24] <@Laforge129> 10NO
[19:24] <@Laforge129> 10NO
[19:25] <+WinstonWolf> No THEY CAN NOT
[19:25] <+WinstonWolf> MIKE - NO THEY CAN NOT
[19:25] <@Laforge129> 10pack drops
[19:25] <@Laforge129> 10though
[19:25] <@Laforge129> 10Yes
[19:25] <+WinstonWolf> Packet Drops are only detectable at the AP
[19:25] <+WinstonWolf> Bad analogy Mike 
[19:26] <+WinstonWolf> No you are not Mike
[19:26] <+WinstonWolf> it depends on the State
[19:26] <@citizenX> .. but I am sitting on my couch .. not pulling up ion stealth mode
[19:27] <+Sacs|Colin> and country :)
[19:27] <+WinstonWolf> Case law has gone BOTH ways on this issue
[19:27] <@Laforge129> 10And cases where people are charged for not doing what they say they are doing!!!
[19:27] <@citizenX> that <censored> apple from the garden of eden rears its ugly head in 2008
[19:27] <+WinstonWolf> Mike - THEY DO NOT KNOW THE MAC
[19:28] <+WinstonWolf> No WAY TO KNOW THE MAC
[19:28] <+WinstonWolf> MAC gets dropped at the router
[19:28] <@Laforge129> 10Router won't show the MAC
[19:28] <+WinstonWolf> MAC dissapears at the Router layer
[19:28] <+WinstonWolf> TCP/IP 101
[19:28] <+WinstonWolf> NO Mike - The MAC address
[19:28] <@Laforge129> 10Machine Address Code
[19:28] <+WinstonWolf> Media Access Code
[19:28] <@Laforge129> 10Opps that too!!
[19:28] <+Sacs|Colin> What will be happening is someone else is using the wireless, downloading lots and getting comcast to give him a call.... He'll have interpreted that as tell your mate to stop using it
[19:29] <@Laforge129> 10ouch
[19:29] <+WinstonWolf> Media Access Control address is the unique hardware identifier of a NIC
[19:30] <+Sacs|Colin> 8mb is the most common max speed
[19:31] <@Laforge129> 10Not a mac or pc
[19:31] <@Laforge129> 10:P
[19:31] <+WinstonWolf> Its more than that Mike - The content is incorrect
[19:31] <+WinstonWolf> ok
[19:32] <+WinstonWolf> will type right now
[19:33] <@Laforge129> 10DSL isn't shared it is seperate from a cable company
[19:33] <@Laforge129> 10Thank you
[19:34] <+Sacs|Colin> ADSL does have a contention ration
[19:34] <+Sacs|Colin> ratio
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[19:34] <@Laforge129> 10Not all the time Sacs
[19:35] <@Laforge129> 10I have DSL and I get 768 down and 256 up
[19:35] <@citizenX> dropping cable for DSL .. scares me ... it should not be this confusing
[19:35] <@Laforge129> 10I think DSL is really reliable!!
[19:35] <+Sacs|Colin> me too
[19:35] <+Sacs|Colin> but there is a contention ratio
[19:35] <@citizenX> I am currently on the comcast speed boost free til mid july .. I do not see a difference
[19:36] <+Sacs|Colin> in the uk its 50:1 for residential connections
[19:36] <+DGMurdockIII> dsl is way better than cable if you can get adsl
[19:36] <@Laforge129> 10Only on certain accounts or companies
[19:36] <+Sacs|Colin> and 20:1 for business connections
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[19:36] <@Laforge129> 10that's in UK but not US
[19:37] <+Sacs|Colin> I know, I'm just saying that contention ratios can apply, the way mike put it, there was no such thing
[19:37] <+DGMurdockIII> you can get adsl in the us
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[19:38] <@Laforge129> 10Dragon speak naturally
[19:38] <@citizenX> for mobile? Paul?
[19:38] <@Laforge129> 10I believe
[19:39] <@citizenX> this is always nice to hear ...
[19:39] <+DGMurdockIII> MPlayer for Windows Mobile
[19:40] <+DGMurdockIII> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344274
[19:40] <@citizenX> I think that Mike is the only podcaster with too much content
[19:41] <+WinstonWolf> Mike - tis in your inbox
[19:41] <@citizenX> i know I know
[19:41] <+ctiberg> Thanks for the explanation about ADSL, that cleard up some things at least :)
01[19:41] <@miketechshow> my rant took too much time :-)
[19:42] <+WinstonWolf> LOL
[19:42] <@Laforge129> 10I love the rant
[19:42] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:42] <+ctiberg> Time well spent :)
01[19:42] <@miketechshow> But I feel better
[19:42] <+WinstonWolf> you can always edit it
[19:42] <@Laforge129> 10LOL
[19:42] <+Sacs|Colin> I do like my ADSL
[19:42] <+Sacs|Colin> I'm looking forward to our local exchange being unbundled so I can get ADSL2
[19:43] <@citizenX> I brough home a laptop from work yesterday to clean and the Antivirsu program was a virus ... LOL
[19:43] <+ctiberg> As I said, that's the only thing selling over here, unless you're lucky enough to live in a building/city that has fiber...
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[19:43] <+DGMurdockIII> Mplayer port for Windows Mobile - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344274
[19:43] <+Sacs|Colin> I wants me some 20Mbit download :)
[19:43] <+WinstonWolf> The part that KILLS me is that my Telco has FIBER in my yard and the station has the Fiber hardware but they will NOT light it up
[19:43] <+ctiberg> Sacs: ADSL2 is everywhere here...
[19:44] <@citizenX> . so I removed "WinAntivirus Pro" and now Windows will not boot up
[19:44] <+Sacs|Colin> ctiberg, wheres here?
[19:44] <@citizenX> I've been cursed. somewhere.. someone ...cursed me...
[19:44] <+ctiberg> citizenX: Reinstall windows... Only sure thing.
[19:44] <+ctiberg> Sacs: Sweden.
[19:44] <+WinstonWolf> Mike - do you have a way to load balance the download?
[19:44] <@Laforge129> 10I'll look around too mike
[19:44] <+Sacs|Colin> ahhhh
[19:44] <+WinstonWolf> I can provide access to a T1
[19:45] <@citizenX> I have to avoid that cti
[19:45] <+DGMurdockIII> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_Digital_Subscriber_Line_2_Plus it has a list of who provided it and there are a few in the use that provide it
[19:45] <+WinstonWolf> but I can't handle the entire download
[19:45] <@Laforge129> 10I say bittorrent it!!
[19:45] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:45] <+WinstonWolf> Torrent works
[19:45] <@Laforge129> 10LOL
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[19:45] <@Laforge129> 10we will set up a torrent!!!
[19:45] <@Laforge129> 10:P
[19:45] <+ctiberg> citizenX: You can't be 100% sure when something has been on the system. ****NEVER****.
[19:45] <@Laforge129> 10True.dat
[19:46] <+WinstonWolf> Control-Alt-Rebuild the system
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[19:46] <+ctiberg> I'm actually looking for podcasts that are delivered by torrent.. No found yet :(
[19:46] <+WinstonWolf> Lots of podcast started that way
[19:46] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:46] <@Laforge129> 10true.dat
[19:46] <+WinstonWolf> you can get Free Talk Live (freetalklive.com) via torrent
[19:46] <+DGMurdockIII> why do you name it as raw
[19:46] <@Laforge129> 10for editing it!1
[19:46] <@citizenX> rephrasing: I try to avaoid it. I like taming the beast. I will spend 10 days to learn an answer rather than fix it quickly
[19:47] <+ctiberg> Winst: Yeah, I know. I'd like to add support for torrents to my podcatcher...
[19:47] <+WinstonWolf> ahh you mean Podcatcher
[19:47] <+WinstonWolf> I thought you meant Podcast
[19:47] <+ctiberg> I meant podcasts, I need something to test with...
[19:47] <+Sacs|Colin> ctiberg, it appears that I will get ADSL2+ by 2011 :-s
[19:48] <+ctiberg> Something that's delivered by torrents that I can try to download :)
[19:48] <+tconnolly100> got to love different PA beer
[19:48] <+Sacs|Colin> 24Mpbs dowan, 2.5Mbps up
[19:48] <+WinstonWolf> CTI was looking for a torrent podcatcher
[19:48] <@Laforge129> 10I will seed it!!
[19:48] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[19:48] <+WinstonWolf> I'll seed it at a bunch of locations
[19:48] <+WinstonWolf> that have full T1
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[19:48] <@Laforge129> 10I've got 2 locations to seed
[19:48] <+WinstonWolf> plus I have my Colo with DS3
[19:48] <+WinstonWolf> problem is getting a podcatcher that gets torrents
[19:49] <+ctiberg> Winston: I'm looking for podcasts that are delivered by torrent, so that I can add support for that to my podcatcher (I'm writing one).
[19:49] <+DGMurdockIII> and if other seed then as well then it really will work
[19:49] <+WinstonWolf> USB
[19:49] <+WinstonWolf> ya
[19:49] <+tconnolly100> Hey Mike , got a question for you!!!!
[19:49] <+WinstonWolf> CTI - If you are looking for a podcast that uses Torrent then look at Free Talk Live
[19:49] <+tconnolly100> I'm having problems with removing a printer 
[19:50] <+tconnolly100> The printer reappears after reboot
[19:50] <+WinstonWolf> FTL is a radio show/podcast 
[19:50] <@citizenX> (oh it sounds easy .. beware)
[19:50] <+DGMurdockIII> is it linux , mac or windows
[19:50] <+Sacs|Colin> tconnolly100, throw it out the window.... sorted
[19:50] <+ctiberg> Winston: Thanks a lot - that helps enormously.. 
[19:50] <+tconnolly100> OK
[19:51] <+tconnolly100> I will give it a try!!! Thanks
[19:51] <+WinstonWolf> Mike - did you get the script I sent you for adding Printers via script on XP?
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[19:52] <+WinstonWolf> works SLICK
[19:52] <+tconnolly100> Kool
[19:52] <+ctiberg> Winston - they don't use torrents inside of their RSS feed - that's what I need...
[19:52] <+WinstonWolf> oh
[19:52] <+WinstonWolf> I don't know that anyone does that
[19:52] <+tconnolly100> Thanks
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[19:53] <+WinstonWolf> OMG that is Ancient
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[19:53] <+Sacs|Colin> ctiberg, dont dot net rocks do that?
[19:53] <+webbie> Delete that xps driver =)
[19:53] <+WinstonWolf> PDFCreator on Source Forge
[19:53] <+ctiberg> Sacs: I don't know what that is? Link?
[19:53] <+DGMurdockIII> love that one
[19:53] <+WinstonWolf> Free
[19:53] <+WinstonWolf> and it ROCKS
[19:53] <+Sacs|Colin> http://www.dotnetrocks.com/
[19:54] <+DGMurdockIII> but not open source
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[19:54] <+ctiberg> Sacs: FOund it - THANKS A LOT!
[19:54] <+ctiberg> Next version of PodBreeze will have (rudimentary) torrent support.
[19:54] <+WinstonWolf> More Metalica
[19:54] <+WinstonWolf> Apocalyptica
[19:54] <+webbie> 3 doors down
[19:54] <+WinstonWolf> Michael Kelsey
[19:55] <+WinstonWolf> Did you ever download that music Mike?
[19:55] <+webbie> Nice
[19:55] <+jvonruden> PDF Redirect - my favorite. merge mutiple prints together
[19:55] <@citizenX> I brought home a laptop from work yesterday to clean and the Antivirus program was a virus ... LOLso I removed "WinAntivirus Pro" using AVG8 (my nemisis) and now Windows will not boot up. How can this happen to me?
[19:55] <+DGMurdockIII> barry manilow
[19:56] <+Sacs|Colin> ctiberg, apparently utorrent can use feeds
[19:56] <+webbie> Can you get into safemode?
[19:56] <+DGMurdockIII> barry white
[19:56] <+Sacs|Colin> I've never seemed to get it working though
[19:56] <+WinstonWolf> Barb - have you tried the Ultimate Boot CD that you build so it boots into a PE session?
[19:56] <@citizenX> nothing would launch in safemode from USB
[19:56] <+WinstonWolf> to try to repair it
[19:56] <@citizenX> so repair at this point.. yeah
[19:57] <+webbie> Yeah
[19:57] <+WinstonWolf> Barb - have you tried the Ultimate Boot CD that you build so it boots into a PE session?
[19:57] <+webbie> I agree
[19:57] <+WinstonWolf> UBCD has a good Bart Builder
[19:57] <+WinstonWolf> a good PE builder
[19:57] <@citizenX> made CD last night.. will test tonight on the desktop and may try boot cd
[19:57] <+DGMurdockIII> Ultimate Boot CD for window not the dose one
[19:57] <+WinstonWolf> yea - what DG said
[19:57] <+DGMurdockIII> dos*
[19:57] <@citizenX> will need Bart for the "other PC" to extract files from
[19:58] <+WinstonWolf> Barb - Skype me, I'll splain
[19:58] <+DGMurdockIII> SystemRescueCd
[19:59] <+WinstonWolf> Link?
[19:59] <+DGMurdockIII> www.sysresccd.org
[19:59] <+webbie> Use the 8 in 1 ultimate gold windows cd =)
[19:59] <+ctiberg> Wow, this rocks - now I'll get to work on adding torrent support, finally.. 2am? What the heck :)
[19:59] <+WinstonWolf> going there now
[19:59] <@citizenX> I just got this email from cate: "Hey barb ignore this i'm with a client. I can mess with fonts." I think she was in mid lesson .. anyhow  -- Cate says HI in her won way!
[19:59] <@citizenX> .. in her own way
[20:00] <+WinstonWolf> BTW Mike - My Mantra Saved my butt this week
[20:00] <+WinstonWolf> backup backup backup
[20:00] <+WinstonWolf> I had 3 backups 
[20:00] <+WinstonWolf> 2 were corrupt
[20:01] <+WinstonWolf> when I went to restore from them
[20:01] <+WinstonWolf> on a VMWare system
[20:01] <+WinstonWolf> that is CRITICAL
[20:01] <+ctiberg> Pity I can't fire up PodBreeze to test - I've got pending downloads that would eat the puny 2Mbit/s I've got here :(
[20:01] <+tconnolly100> ESX?
[20:01] <+WinstonWolf> man my stomach DROPPED when the 2nd backup failed
[20:01] <+WinstonWolf> I was sick
[20:01] <+webbie> do a live screen when you do it
[20:01] <+webbie> I would love to watch
[20:01] <+webbie> =)
[20:01] <+WinstonWolf> 3rd backup saved my butt
[20:01] <+webbie> yes you can
[20:01] <+tconnolly100> VMotion!!!!
[20:01] <+webbie> haha
[20:02] <+WinstonWolf> Mike - Do you have a VMWare conference going in your area?
[20:02] <+DGMurdockIII> http://podbreeze.wordpress.com/
[20:02] <@citizenX> @Mike did you get my live version of code monkey?
[20:02] <+WinstonWolf> I went to the Chicago one. It SUCKED
[20:02] <+ctiberg> DGM: Yep
[20:02] <+jvonruden> Live View-mount disk images-physical drives in virtual machine - http://liveview.sourceforge.net/index.html  
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[20:03] <+WinstonWolf> Edit it IN
[20:03] <+Sacs|Colin> Geeks are sexy?
[20:03] <+Sacs|Colin> (from Mikes mail box)
06[20:04] * +ctiberg is also mailing with TheTodder :)
[20:04] <+Sacs|Colin> suuuuuuuuure it is
[20:04] <@citizenX> code monkey
[20:04] <+WinstonWolf> Code Monkey is great
[20:04] <+DGMurdockIII> http://xen.org/
[20:05] <+ctiberg> That song is so just right :)
[20:05] <@citizenX> This is from  Rev3's new show Epic FU with Zadi: http://revision3.com/epicfu/
[20:05] <+DGMurdockIII> Xen is state-of-the-art virtualization on the PC - and it is even open source. With a high performance mainly due to it's architecture with the hypervisor and it's support for hardware virtualization - Xen sets a new standard for virtualization software. Already used in many data centers Xen has sho
[20:05] <@citizenX> New episode as of a few hours ago
[20:05] <+WinstonWolf> bad edit?
[20:05] <+Sacs|Colin> the cake is a lie
[20:05] <@citizenX> perhaps WW
[20:05] <@citizenX> but live too
[20:05] <+WinstonWolf> XEN is NEAT
[20:05] <+WinstonWolf> but I take VMWare over anything
[20:06] <+DGMurdockIII>  Epic FU is not new it old show they just pick up the show
[20:06] <@citizenX> oh no  ... it is skipping here.. 
[20:06] <@citizenX> I hear what you are saying
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[20:06] <+DGMurdockIII> Cooperative Linux is good to
[20:06] <+ctiberg> Why does watching the video disable Ctrl+Tab to go to a new tab in FF?
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[20:07] <+WinstonWolf> CTI - because the video has focus
[20:07] <+Sacs|Colin> I like the version from you tube
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[20:07] <+WinstonWolf> if you click on the TEXT of the page it works
[20:07] <+Sacs|Colin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4TnhemCEmc
[20:07] <@citizenX> mike.. is it skipping on your end?
[20:07] <+DGMurdockIII> empty your cache
[20:07] <@citizenX> geeze
[20:07] <+ctiberg> Winston: That requires moving hands from keyboard. No good.
[20:07] <+WinstonWolf> I think it is a bad edit
[20:07] <+DGMurdockIII> ctiberg
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[20:08] <+WinstonWolf> CTI - I agree
[20:08] <@citizenX> the file I saved and sent is flawless
[20:08] <+WinstonWolf> Baby Got Back
[20:08] <+WinstonWolf> JC
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[20:09] <+WinstonWolf> has anyone see the Video made of this song with CGI?
[20:09] <+WinstonWolf> they used some kind of Video Game to generate the video
[20:09] <@citizenX> @ww linky!
[20:09] <+WinstonWolf> looking
[20:09] <+WinstonWolf> tis an actual Monkey walking around
[20:09] <@Laforge129> 10lol
[20:09] <+DGMurdockIII> on a tv show?
[20:09] <+WinstonWolf> getting Mountain Dew
[20:09] <+Sacs|Colin> citizenX, its here
[20:09] <+Sacs|Colin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
[20:09] <@citizenX> I think I saw it 
[20:09] <+WinstonWolf> and a "PRinces"
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[20:10] <@citizenX> yes .. this is how I first heard it Colin
[20:10] <@citizenX> .. that youtube video
[20:10] <+WinstonWolf> here is the link
[20:10] <+WinstonWolf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
[20:10] <+WinstonWolf> Sacks already had it
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[20:10] <+WinstonWolf> my bad
[20:10] <@citizenX> yeah
[20:11] <+WinstonWolf> you have to watch the Monkey video version
[20:11] <+Sacs|Colin> I like the song "First of May" :-)
[20:11] <+WinstonWolf> it is great
[20:11] <@citizenX> Jonathan Coulton is brilliant
[20:11] <+WinstonWolf> yea
[20:11] <+WinstonWolf> I like the BGB 
[20:11] <@citizenX> dude sit down
[20:11] <+WinstonWolf> STFD
[20:11] <@citizenX> STFD
[20:11] <@citizenX> yeah
[20:11] <@citizenX> (laughing)
[20:11] <+WinstonWolf> Okay - I have a FUNNY one
[20:12] <+DGMurdockIII> Werid AL is way better
[20:12] <@citizenX> wierd al has a great band
[20:12] <@citizenX> played better than MY file
[20:12] <+webbie> Hey if anyone needs server boards I have some Intel se7520bd2 boards thats are left over from some builds. They are brand new
[20:12] <@citizenX> geeze
[20:12] <+DGMurdockIII> werid al
[20:12] <+webbie> In box
[20:12] <+WinstonWolf> I do contract work for the local Library (Tech) and they have a shelf of Non Fiction that they feature and change all the Time. I walk by it and I see a book called Wiskey Tango Foxtrot
[20:12] <+Sacs|Colin> audio was good
[20:12] <@citizenX> cranberies
[20:12] <@citizenX> i have had a bad weeek
[20:13] <+WinstonWolf> I looked at the book - it is a book of images from Iraq
[20:13] <@citizenX> (puts knife to neck)
[20:13] <+WinstonWolf> Wiskey Tango Foxtrot
[20:13] <@citizenX> wtf
[20:13] <@citizenX> LOL
[20:13] <+WinstonWolf> I asked the head librarian - do you know what that means?
[20:13] <@citizenX> (the joke)
[20:13] <@citizenX> go
[20:14] <+Sacs|Colin> Kung Fu Fighting?
[20:14] <+WinstonWolf> she said - yes, they are military verbal alphabet
[20:14] <@citizenX> OH YEAH
[20:14] <@citizenX> I dont like mondays
[20:14] <@citizenX> WOOT!
[20:14] <+WinstonWolf> but I aske - Do you KNOW what WTF meand?
[20:14] <@citizenX> LOOOVVEEE this song
[20:14] <+WinstonWolf> Nope/...
[20:14] <+WinstonWolf> I was dying
[20:14] <@Laforge129> 10I"m wanting to see Walle!!
[20:14] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[20:14] <+WinstonWolf> here is the PRUDE
[20:14] <+WinstonWolf> with WTF on the main Shelf
[20:14] <@Laforge129> 10I don't like Mondays
[20:14] <@Laforge129> 10:)
[20:14] <+DGMurdockIII> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whiskey_tango_foxtrot
[20:14] <@citizenX> I just know that the song was banned
[20:14] <@citizenX> for years
[20:15] <@citizenX> great surprise .. TY MIke
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[20:15] <+WinstonWolf> here is the link to the book http://www.amazon.com/Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot-Photographers-Chronicle/dp/0226293254
[20:15] <@citizenX> @ ww you lost me
[20:15] <@citizenX> oh wait
[20:15] <+Sacs|Colin> miketechshow, you can have him... can we ship him over to you?  whats the address?
[20:15] <+Sacs|Colin> :-)
[20:16] <@citizenX> @WW nice book title considering the content
[20:16] <@citizenX> nice link
[20:16] <@citizenX> everygeek should have one
[20:16] <@citizenX> I like that it is photographs
[20:17] <+randy_nacol2002> hi mike
[20:17] <+Sacs|Colin> Sir Bob would get my Sir Foot up his Sir Rear if he came round here asking me to give my stuff to people again ... (its the again part that bothers me)
[20:17] <+randy_nacol2002> did i miss the show
[20:17] <+WinstonWolf> it is photograp with some stories that go with the pic
[20:17] <@citizenX> @ ww very cool book. TY.. I will get
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[20:18] <+WinstonWolf> have you seen Duke Lately?
[20:18] <+randy_nacol2002> i forgot you said wed this week
[20:18] <+Sacs|Colin> Heres a suggestion.... Twisted Sister --- I wanna rock !!
[20:18] <+DGMurdockIII> werid al
[20:18] <@Laforge129> 10http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuCYarx2AAg#
[20:18] <+Sacs|Colin> Youtube provides
[20:18] <+Sacs|Colin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6e8aOdPxhI
[20:18] <+DGMurdockIII> dr demento
[20:19] <@citizenX> @ww I need to see duke. You have been neglecting me of pics 
[20:19] <@citizenX> the commercial can only carry me so far
[20:19] <@citizenX> :)
[20:19] <@citizenX> bad Mike bad
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[20:20] <+Sacs|Colin> whos this?
[20:20] <+DGMurdockIII> Dr. Demento
[20:21] <+Sacs|Colin> I don't think Bush made it in the uk, even though are from the uk
[20:21] <+DGMurdockIII> no doubt
[20:21] <+DGMurdockIII> hole
[20:22] <+DGMurdockIII> i have this cd too
[20:22] <+WinstonWolf> got me
[20:22] <+WinstonWolf> I know the song
[20:22] <+Sacs|Colin> me too
[20:22] <+DGMurdockIII> that why i cant belive i cant rember what it is
[20:23] <+webbie> You need to play Weird AL Its all about the pentiums!
[20:23] <+randy_nacol2002> i've been sheltered 
[20:23] <+DGMurdockIII> pural jam
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[20:23] <+DGMurdockIII> pearl jam
[20:24] <+DGMurdockIII> u2
[20:24] <@citizenX> i am just terrible at this
[20:24] <+DGMurdockIII> lit
[20:24] <+WinstonWolf> Collective SOUL
[20:24] <@citizenX> ty WW
[20:24] <@citizenX> great sounding band
[20:25] <+WinstonWolf> I knew that I had them here somewhere
[20:26] <@citizenX> oh yeah
[20:27] <+WinstonWolf> BRB - Beer run!
[20:27] <+DGMurdockIII> keith urban
[20:27] <@citizenX> @WW LOL amature
[20:27] <+DGMurdockIII> tom green
[20:27] <@citizenX> bongos not cow bell
[20:27] <@citizenX> LOL
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[20:28] <+DGMurdockIII> creed
[20:28] <+Sacs|Colin> did you guys ever get therapy? over there?
[20:28] <@citizenX> murdock I like creed too
[20:28] <@citizenX> he DID
[20:28] <+DGMurdockIII> yes
[20:28] <+DGMurdockIII> there one of my fav band
[20:29] <@citizenX> i'm just gonna sit here and smile
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[20:29] <+Sacs|Colin> Mike,   got Therapy? - Screamager
[20:29] <+Jumboshrmp1> Hey "guys"
[20:29] <+Sacs|Colin> ?
[20:30] <+DGMurdockIII> Got Milk
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[20:31] <+Jumboshrmp1> bye
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[20:31] <@Laforge129> 10LO
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[20:32] <@citizenX> Oh I just saw stained though
[20:32] <@citizenX> in the list
[20:32] <@citizenX> you passed staind
[20:32] <@citizenX> no I saw it again .. go up
[20:32] <+DGMurdockIII> micheal jackson
[20:33] <@citizenX> no it was creed and staind .. you had something
[20:33] <+webbie> System of a down 
[20:33] <+webbie> doh
[20:33] <@citizenX> you had creed and staided together.. an mp3
[20:33] <@citizenX> go to creed
[20:33] <@citizenX> go slowe
[20:34] <+Sacs|Colin> no "Therapy?" then :)
[20:34] <@citizenX> oh
[20:34] <@citizenX> NM
[20:34] <@citizenX> LOL
[20:34] <@citizenX> <censored>
[20:34] <+Sacs|Colin> lol
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[20:35] <+WinstonWolf> ok - I really BBL again. Dinner is on the table
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[20:35] <@citizenX> lates ww
[20:36] <@citizenX> as a parent I think it is SUFFER
[20:36] <@citizenX> (joke, Mike)
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[20:38] <+ctiberg> Sh*t, paypal requires a credit card for me to use them to pay for stuff.. I didn't know that :(
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[20:39] <@citizenX> how else ya gonna pay cti?
[20:39] <+ctiberg> citi: I've got $90+ on the account
[20:40] <@citizenX> that is spendable
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[20:40] <@citizenX> just find a merchant that takes paypal
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[20:40] <+ctiberg> I did. When I get to paypal, they say "To complete your purchase, please add a new credit card or debit card."
[20:40] <+webbie> You should play this one mike 
[20:40] <+webbie> http://youtube.com/watch?v=2vaNeaWQoHI
[20:41] <+Sacs|Colin> nope
[20:41] <+ctiberg> I don't have a credit card. Never had one, probably never will get one.
[20:41] <+webbie> Yeah
[20:41] <+Sacs|Colin> weird al
[20:41] <@citizenX> cti.. I also pay for what I can afford and never use plastic
[20:41] <+Sacs|Colin> the duet with fred durst
[20:41] <+webbie> lol
[20:41] <@citizenX> get a prepaid CC you can get one at any ban and reload it as needed for web purchaes
[20:42] <@citizenX> * any bank
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[20:42] <+ctiberg> citi: I don't know if that's available in Sweden, though. I'll check...
[20:42] <@citizenX> must be..  any bank .. check
[20:42] <@citizenX> that is the answer
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[20:43] <@citizenX> Hello Tony
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[20:43] <+Sacs|Colin> webbie... white and nerdy is a great one
[20:43] <+webbie> LOL
[20:43] <+tlee58> hey guys did know the show was tonight sorry i missed it
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[20:43] <+tlee58> not know
[20:43] <@citizenX> AL is a transformer.. he can be who you need him to be
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[20:45] <@citizenX> nice rendering of the vid mike.... following well
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[20:45] <+webbie> Back in the days of working in the repair shop, we played this over and over and over . lol
[20:45] <+tlee58> hey barbra 
[20:45] <@citizenX> hey back
[20:45] <+ctiberg> Citi: Thanks for the tip, that might be the route to go - I think that I've found something...
[20:46] <@citizenX> cool deal
[20:46] <+jmaster03> ummmm
[20:46] <+webbie> Thanks mike
[20:46] <+webbie> haha
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[20:47] <@citizenX> so it was news to you
[20:47] <+Sacs|Colin> have you heard white and nerdy?
[20:47] <+tlee58> started packing yet?
[20:47] <@citizenX> oh!!! white and nerdy! another Al
[20:47] <+Sacs|Colin> another weird all sone
[20:47] <+Sacs|Colin> song*
[20:47] <+Sacs|Colin> al
[20:48] <+Sacs|Colin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEzGIuY7kw
[20:48] <@citizenX> white n nerdy ?
[20:48] <+Sacs|Colin> yeah
[20:48] <@citizenX> too funny
[20:48] <@citizenX> mike c'mon
[20:48] <@citizenX> this is good
[20:49] <@citizenX> again brilliance
[20:49] <+ctiberg> http://youtube.com/watch?v=WFXptNWaxfA
[20:49] <@citizenX> whats that cit?
[20:50] <+ctiberg> Roxette - One of our better music exports :)
[20:50] <@citizenX> roxette from back in the day?
[20:50] <+Sacs|Colin> Yes thats Donny Osmond dancing there
[20:50] <+ctiberg> citi: Yep
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[20:50] <@citizenX> lets see if Mike will
[20:51] <@citizenX> I want that white/nerdy hoodie
[20:51] <+Sacs|Colin> I thought you'd like that
[20:52] <@citizenX> meh
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[20:52] <+ctiberg> I love Roxette - still to this day :)
[20:52] <+Sacs|Colin> Right.... I gotta hit my bed
[20:52] <+Sacs|Colin> tis nearly 2am here
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[20:52] <@citizenX> night colin
[20:52] <+Sacs|Colin> and I get up at 6:40am#
[20:52] <+ctiberg> Don't hit it too hard, or it might hit back!
[20:53] <+Sacs|Colin> nn
[20:53] <@citizenX> @sacs been there 5 days a week
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[20:53] <@citizenX> LOL
[20:53] <@citizenX> I hate sleeping.. such a waste of time ..LOL
[20:54] <@citizenX> play your song
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[20:54] <@citizenX> your choice
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[20:55] <@citizenX> .. like your abundance of choice is OUR fault
[20:55] <+spikehead68> YO WATS GOIN ON MIKE?!
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[20:56] <+ctiberg> http://youtube.com/watch?v=1hgfVbixQlg
[20:56] <@citizenX> (listening)
[20:56] <+webbie> cold play
[20:56] <+webbie> closing time
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[20:57] <@citizenX> Semisonic
[20:57] <+webbie> dang it
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[20:57] <+webbie> I was typing that
[20:57] <+webbie> haha
[20:57] <@citizenX> I google faster than YOU
[20:57] <@citizenX> LOL
[20:57] <+webbie> I youtubed
[20:57] <+webbie> =)
[20:57] <+webbie> haha
[20:57] <@citizenX> love this too
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[20:57] <@citizenX> .. it is closing time.. I have work to do
[20:57] <+WinstonWolf> back
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[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> who needs a Linux Boot?
[20:58] <+webbie> Hey mike where is a good place to buy ssl certificates
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> oh - probably Barb
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> Webbie
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> what Use?
[20:58] <@citizenX> I have bootable linux cd's lying around
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> you can still get Tawte
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> thawte
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> yuo
[20:58] <+WinstonWolf> p
[20:58] <+webbie> I think so
[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> but they are cheaper from GoDaddy
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[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> Verisign
[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> here is the thing
[20:59] <+webbie> humm I will have to look then
[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> They did
[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> Verisign bought them
[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> but they are still doing their own thing
[20:59] <+webbie> Anyone have any idea how much they are on go daddy?
[20:59] <+WinstonWolf> and cheaper than Verisign
[21:00] <+ctiberg> Winston: Pity that the DotNetRocks dudes don't have any seeds for their torrents :( 
[21:00] <+WinstonWolf> But GoDaddy has a cheaper price for a cert
[21:00] <+webbie> k
[21:00] <@rjnsmith> 5thawte from my understanding is a reseller of Verisign. 
[21:00] <+webbie> Right
[21:00] <+webbie> Thats what I read also
[21:00] <@citizenX> ryan pops in when needed.. 
[21:00] <+WinstonWolf> if you are doing something that does not need a full cert you can get one from CA Cert
[21:00] <@citizenX> ty Ryan
[21:01] <+WinstonWolf> http://www.cacert.org/
02[21:01] * +ctiberg (ustreamer-@dev-4C8BE1BA.ksd.dsl.bikab.com) Quit (Client exited)
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> Nope Thawte still does their OWN cert
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> they do not use the VS root
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> I just bought one for a client
[21:02] <@citizenX> over n out... as usual .. great ending song.. you have such faith in the world
[21:02] <@citizenX> LOL
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> E = premium-server@thawte.com
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> CN = Thawte Premium Server CA
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> OU = Certification Services Division
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> O = Thawte Consulting cc
[21:02] <+tlee58> last show at this location?
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> L = Cape Town
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> ST = Western Cape
[21:02] <@citizenX> I just want to smack someone
[21:02] <+WinstonWolf> C = ZA
[21:02] <@citizenX> LOL
[21:03] <+tlee58> last show at current location
[21:03] <+WinstonWolf> Authority info - OCSP: URI: http://ocsp.thawte.com
01[21:03] <@miketechshow> good night!
[21:03] <+randy_nacol2002> night
Session Close: Wed Jun 11 21:03:47 2008